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UFC 52: Couture vs Liddell 2
VS
John Marsh
John Marsh
6-4 · USA
April 16, 2005 · Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
Heavyweight · 3 rounds
215.0lb
Weigh-in
225.0lb
Mike van Arsdale def. John Marsh by U-DEC, R3 5:00
Performance
Round by round
SSTDKDCtrl
R1
van Arsdale17/221/103:43
Marsh2/50/000:02
R2
van Arsdale3/160/300:35
Marsh8/151/101:38
R3
van Arsdale14/220/003:10
Marsh8/150/011:01
Total
van Arsdale34/601/407:28
Marsh18/351/112:41

Scorecards

van Arsdale vs Marsh

RdCecil PeoplesDalby ShirleyMarcos RosalesCommunity
R1---10-8.5
R2---9-10
R3---10-9
Total29-2829-2829-2829-27.5

Official cards + public consensus via MMA Decisions. Per round: van Arsdale-Marsh.

Pre-fight

The model's read going in

The walk-forward model's call at the time of the bout — persisted out-of-sample, with no hindsight about the result.

Prediction
van ArsdaleWin probabilityMarsh
24.2%75.8%
KO / TKO
25%
Submission
10%
Decision
65%
Expected fight time: 11.5 min
What drives the pick

Each bar is a feature's push on the model from the center axis. Red pushes toward van Arsdale, blue toward Marsh. Tap a bar for why.

Predicted outcomes
van Arsdale24%
Wins by
Model
Equity
Mkt
KO / TKO7%31%
Submission3%11%
Decision14%58%
Predicted output
Sig. strikes56 (3273)act 34
Takedowns0.7 (0.02.2)act 1
Marsh76%
Wins by
Model
Equity
Mkt
KO / TKO18%23%
Submission7%10%
Decision51%67%
Predicted output
Sig. strikes61 (3580)act 18
Takedowns1.2 (0.12.9)act 1
Combined totals~117 sig strikes~1.9 takedownsmkt —
How it ends
mkt —
R121%
R29%
R35%
Distance65%
Fighter props
Most sig. strikestie 0.9%
van Arsdale
45.2%+119
Marsh
-11953.9%
Most takedownstie 31.9%
van Arsdale
23.1%+195
Marsh
-19545.1%
Significant strikes — over/under
van Arsdale
Expected: 56.0
56
Over 56
41.9%
+136
Exactly 56
1.2%
push
Under 56
56.9%
-136
071141
Marsh
Expected: 61.5
61.5
Over 61.5
42.5%
+136
Under 61.5
57.5%
-136
077154
Takedowns — over/under
van Arsdale
Expected: 0.7
0.5
Over 0.5
85.4%
-583
Under 0.5
14.6%
+583
035
Marsh
Expected: 1.2
1
Over 1
49.3%
-1099
Exactly 1
46.2%
push
Under 1
4.5%
+1099
035

Odds are model-implied (no real prop market is priced for these). The “most” prices are draw-no-bet — a tie (for takedowns, usually 0–0) is a push, so each side is priced off its chance of winning given a result, while the % shown is the raw chance of landing strictly more. Drag a line in half-point steps: a half line (e.g. 2.5) is a clean over/under, while a whole number adds a third outcome — landing exactly on it, a push — so over, exact and under sum to 100%. On a whole number the over/under odds are draw-no-bet (priced off the decisive mass, since the push refunds), so the two sides stay mirror images rather than implying an arbitrage.

Expected fight time 11.5 min. Predicted-output ranges are percentiles of the model’s simulated fights: sig strikes the middle 50% (25th–75th); takedowns the wider 10th–90th, since they’re 0 in most fights so a narrow band would collapse to 0. Win-by-method = win probability × that fighter’s own method split: the model forecasts how the fight ends, and that forecast is divided between the corners by each fighter’s finishing record — UFC wins in full, earlier-career wins at half weight, as of fight night — reconciled so the fighters’ totals still equal their win probabilities and the methods still total the fight-level forecast above. “Equity” is each of those over that fighter’s win % — how they win given that they win — so a column adds to 100%, and it differs by corner. A fighter with no classifiable wins at any level leans on the fight-level split. “How it ends” is the model’s round-of-finish split. “Mkt” is the de-vigged market prop (consensus across books), shown for context, not as a betting signal; rounds & totals slots fill as that data lands. Percentages are apportioned by largest remainder, so each set adds to its total exactly and an individual figure can sit a point off its own rounding.

Model vs market
Final
ModelMarketGapLine
To win
van Arsdale24.2%33.6%−9.4+185
Marsh75.8%66.4%+9.4-225

Market % is the de-vigged (no-vig) consensus across the books that price both fighters; the line is the average across books with the min–max range in parentheses. Gap is the model minus the market in points (+ = the model rates that outcome above the market). Thin or one-sided markets are flagged or left blank rather than shown as a fabricated %. Shown for context, not as a bet — the closing line is the sharpest public price and the model trails it on average. For 5-round bouts the model splits its round-3+ finish mass into rounds 3–5 by the historical within-bucket rate, so the over-3.5 / 4.5 lines carry a model estimate.

Trait web
Str/minStr accStr defAbsorbedTD/15TD accTD defSubs
Hover a point to see the values
van ArsdaleMarsh
Tale of the tape
Ratings (Elo)
1524
Pound-for-pound
1496
1524
Divisional
1496
1470
Striking offense
1482
1510
Striking defense
1500
1559
Grappling offense
1561
1557
Grappling defense
1558
Physical
39 yrs
Age
34 yrs
6'2"
Height
6'0"
Reach
Switch
Stance
Orthodox
Striking (UFC career)
2.45
Strikes landed / min
38%
Strike accuracy
0.36
Strikes absorbed / min
64%
Strike defense
Grappling (UFC career)
1.36
Takedowns / 15 min
100%
Takedown accuracy
100%
Takedown defense
1.4
Sub attempts / 15 min
Form & résumé
100%
UFC win rate
+1
Win/loss streak
100%
Last-5 win rate
100%
Finish rate
Recent opp. quality
2528
Days since last fight
Recent form (last 5 UFC)
Mike van Arsdale
  • WJoe PardoSUB R1
    6y 11mo before
John Marsh
No prior UFC fights.
van Arsdale — win / loss by method
Record: 7-1-0

Bar length is fight count (largest bar = full width); shading splits finishes by round and decisions by unanimous vs split — tap a bar for the round-by-round count.

KO/TKO
3 wins, 1 loss
W
43% of wins
L
100% of losses
Submission
4 wins, 0 losses
W
57% of wins
L
0% of losses
Decision
0 wins, 0 losses
W
0% of wins
L
0% of losses
UFC
1win0loss0draw0NC
WinsLosses
0 (0%)KO/TKO() 0
1 (100%)Submission() 0
0 (0%)Decision() 0
Non-UFC
6win1loss0draw0NC
WinsLosses
3 (50%)KO/TKO(100%) 1
3 (50%)Submission(0%) 0
0 (0%)Decision(0%) 0
Marsh — win / loss by method
Record: 6-4-0

Bar length is fight count (largest bar = full width); shading splits finishes by round and decisions by unanimous vs split — tap a bar for the round-by-round count.

KO/TKO
1 win, 0 losses
W
17% of wins
L
0% of losses
Submission
4 wins, 1 loss
W
67% of wins
L
25% of losses
Decision
1 win, 3 losses
W
17% of wins
L
75% of losses
UFC
0win0loss0draw0NC
WinsLosses
0 ()KO/TKO() 0
0 ()Submission() 0
0 ()Decision() 0
Non-UFC
6win4loss0draw0NC
WinsLosses
1 (17%)KO/TKO(0%) 0
4 (67%)Submission(25%) 1
1 (17%)Decision(75%) 3

Profiles

Experience
van Arsdale
Marsh
1
UFC fights
0
11.0 min · 11.0 avg
Octagon time
28y 6m
Career length
UFC schedule strength

Opponents' records on fight night — toggle their full cross-promotional record vs UFC bouts only.

van Arsdale
Marsh
1W–1L · 50.0%
Overall
1W–1L · 50.0%
Wins
0W–0L
Losses
Non-UFC schedule strength
van Arsdale
Marsh
25W–22L · 53.2%
Overall
125W–30L · 80.6%
21W–21L · 50.0%
Wins
71W–23L · 75.5%
4W–1L · 80.0%
Losses
54W–7L · 88.5%
Distance striking
van Arsdale
Marsh
0.91
Landed / min
25.7%
Accuracy
70.0%
Defense
0.00
Knockdowns / 15 min
90.0%
Time at distance
Grappling & control
van Arsdale
Marsh
1.36
Takedowns / 15 min
100.0%
Takedown accuracy
100.0%
Takedown defense
1.36
Sub attempts / 15 min
Control share
Strike target map
van Arsdale
  • Head56%(15)div 68%
  • Body30%(8)div 15%
  • Legs15%(4)div 17%
Marsh
  • Head0%(0)div 68%
  • Body0%(0)div 15%
  • Legs0%(0)div 17%
  • No strike data on record.

Where each fighter lands significant strikes (career). “div” = the weight-class average.

Mike van Arsdale
CloseSSTDKDCtrl

Per-fight: SS & TD shown landed/attempted; Close = consensus closing line.

John Marsh

No UFC fights on record.

Per-fight: SS & TD shown landed/attempted; Close = consensus closing line.